Just Ron and I went through some similar issues, although we were not born-ins. Just Ron realized it was all a load of crap early on, but it took me a lot longer. In fact, I didn't realize that the basic doctrines and beliefs were in error until *after* I got out. So for me, the reason I left the borg had nothing to do with the doctrines. I remember sitting in a district convention and thinking to myself "I don't want to be here", but at the time I thought Just Ron was a True Believer TM so I didn't say anything. The borg puts a wall between couples, so that each is afraid to be totally honest with the other. Just Ron finally asked me outright if I wanted to be a witness, and I had finally had enough of the interpersonal bullcrap and I said no. Now we are both out and happier than we've been since before we got sucked into the cult.
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A new member of the thinking class
by Captain Obvious inthis is my first post on this forum, though it feels like i already know some of you here.
i have been lurking for a couple of months now, and i must say, there honestly seems to be more love and respect here than any forum i have ever seen on any forum of any kind.
i am 25 years old, married 3 years to my wonderful wife who is 22. we had a somewhat classic jw upbringing... which i now know has been our biggest problem.
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Just Ron used to hunt and fish regularly. We ate everything he brought home. I wouldn't feel right about killing something and then not eating it.
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No - but it would be funny as hell if someone put easter eggs all around one.
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marriage without affection/sex/touching
by zeb inyes thats my situation.
some where along the path of life the wt guilt trip was dumped on our marriage and we havent had sex for years.. anyone else?
the hearts and flowers and gifts and doing the cleaning, the house work and paying the daily accounts never being drunk on drugs playing the horses or screwing others yep its all there but nothing coming back due to the wt guilt trip.. they made so much of 'oral sex' and 'pornea' incorrectly quoted at that and ventured thereby into areas they were patently very ill equipped to comment on.
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Just ROn and I went through a long period where our sex life was very limited. We had babies and I had post partum depression, and then we had the WTS flapping endlessly about all the things we shouldn't be doing in bed. I put on weight, I was constantly stressed out over trying to follow all the rules and meet all the requirements the WTS was pushing. I was a mess, and I just didn't see that the source of my problems was my failure to be my authentic self - the self that wouldn't waste time trying to please an unpleasable publishing company posing as a religion.
Nothing he did was enough to fix the problem, and I swear he did everything he could think of to try to make it better. He cooked, he cleaned, he took care of the kids, he was always nice to me, he always considered my feelings, and he has always been very diligent about making sure I get as much out of sex as he does. There was nothing he could do to fix me, because he wasn't the problem. The only cure was for me to start being me again - and I did to some degree for a while before we got out of the WTS. Now that we are totally free of their influence, we feel like we are ourselves again and that leads to more intimacy and closeness.
I wish you the best of luck in pulling your spouse out of that evil organization.
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Watch Out - Satan is watching you!
by usualusername inas a witness eepcially during my teens - early twenties i believed that satan was watching me for my weaknesses.. .
this gave me a mild form of paranoia.. .
do you believe satan was watching you?.
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oh Zid - *every* thread needs a she devil!
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Memorial is more important than dying relative!
by Orphan Annie inmy husband is gravely ill sedated and on a ventilator.
he most likely isn't going to survive.
we are not disfellowshipped.
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I am so sorry. The behavior of dubs can be really shocking sometimes.
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Do People Hate You Too For Being Too Beautiful?
by minimus insamantha brick has this problem.
i understand her pain..
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Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
'cos I get better looking each day
to know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a woman.
O Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
I used to have a girl friend
but I guess she just could'n't complete
for all of these lovestarved men
who keep clamouring at my feet.
Well I probably find me another
but I guess they're all in awe of me
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I don't know what would happen, but I'd pay good money to watch that 3 ring circus.
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Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?
by Alfred in(a little background info before i ask my question...).
my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!
she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).
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In Illinois, minimum wage is $8 per hour, but waitstaff only gets $4.80. There is no way to support yourself on less than 10k per year, so tips are critically important to the waitstaff. If you can't afford to tip, eat at places where the staff is paid the full minimum wage.
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How did/does your congregation view going out to eat AFTER the Memorial?
by OneDayillBeFree infor us it used to be a big no-no, but i think it has slowly grown more acceptable since many of our elders would be starving during the whole reject jesus party.... i always thought it was a bit funny when i saw brothers and sisters almost celebrating with a big feast and drinks on the night that the good ol' messiah sacrificed himself for all humankind!
it seems now more recently that since it is the only thing witnessess can celebrate, they go all out!
maybe i'll join in the festivities too.. so what about you guys?
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One sister used to host a get together at her house after the memorial. I don't know what happened, but she stopped doing it and nobody else stepped in to host. It was not a lively party, and I never saw anyone drink the wine. In fact, there was never any booze at any of the congregation parties. I have no idea what the elders did with the wine.